Positional sensing notes

[everson]

Is there a way to assign notes for some positions?

I.e. I`m just testing Abbey Road Modern Drums and I like it a lot! The only drawback I see is it doesn`t support CC messages (as far as I can tell). On hihat it`s not a big deal, as MD support notes for different pedal positions. But what about snare?
Abbey Road offers:

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Center Alternating
Center Left
Center Right
Halfway Alternating
Halfway Left
Halfway Right

all with different notes.
Now, I`m not so crazy about left and right articulations, but if I can at least get Halfway Alternating to work by sending a note from MD ...

Any clues?

[everson]

Forgot to mention: Kontakt (sampler for Abbey Road library) offers some scripting possibilities. So, if I can realize what kind of messages does CC16 sends (how to differ hits near center, from those near edge), I think I can manage to create a script for this purpose.

So, what data should I look for?

Here`s my MIDI log, with first hit near the center, and second near the edge.

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    3.052   10  0xb9  0x10  0x00 E  0    CC: General Controller 1     

    0.002   10  0x99  0x26  0x6d D  2    Note On                     

    0.265   10  0x99  0x26  0x00 D  2    Note Off                     

    2.634   10  0xb9  0x10  0x60 E  0    CC: General Controller 1     

    0.001   10  0x99  0x26  0x2d D  2    Note On                     

    0.258   10  0x99  0x26  0x00 D  2    Note Off

[dmitri]

3.052 10 0xb9 0x10 0x00 E 0 CC: General Controller 1

0.002 10 0x99 0x26 0x6d D 2 Note On

0.265 10 0x99 0x26 0x00 D 2 Note Off

2.634 10 0xb9 0x10 0x60 E 0 CC: General Controller 1

0.001 10 0x99 0x26 0x2d D 2 Note On

0.258 10 0x99 0x26 0x00 D 2 Note Off

I highlighted what you need to look at.

[everson]

OK, thanks. I`ll try it tomorrow (it`s late for drumming here currently).
So, if I set it to send "center note" when value is lower than, say 50 ("0x60" from the log), and otherwise to send "halfway note", I guess that would work ...
What values could be expected there, actually? From 0 to ... ?

BTW, could you tell from this short log that my MD positional sensing is actually working?

[dmitri]

OK, thanks. I`ll try it tomorrow (it`s late for drumming here currently).
So, if I set it to send "center note" when value is lower than, say 50 ("0x60" from the log), and otherwise to send "halfway note", I guess that would work ...
What values could be expected there, actually? From 0 to ... ?

From 0 to 0x7f ( 0 to 127)

BTW, could you tell from this short log that my MD positional sensing is actually working?

If it is consistent and matches with centre/edge hits then it works.

[everson]

I managed to write a script for Kontakt (actually to rewrite an existing one), but seems like my positional sensing is not good.
I cooled down the pad a bit (it`s now at HghLvl 600-700), but there are still erroneous positions ...
Don`t know what to try else ...

[dmitri]

1. Are you using a precision rectifier?
2. Is it better or worse than in this video?

[everson]

1. No, just alesis wiring.

It acts better than previously, when the pad was at HghLvl 850, but there are still lots of position errors ...

2. Which video?

[dmitri]

Sorry, this is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9hHk1RZpmU

[everson]

Well, can`t tell from that video if it is accurate ... You should have filmed both snare and display ...

Maybe I can try something in settings.

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xTalk: 4
Threshold: 18
Gain: 4
HghLvl: 613
Retrigger: 1
DynLvl: 4
DynTime: 44
MinScan: 60