Choke without aftertouch

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Choke without aftertouch

Postby talrusher » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:46 pm

is there a way to generate a chocke note to chocke the cymbals?

for example:
now my cymbals are set to dualzone. on the second zone i have maped the same note as on the first zone. i can stop the cymbal by touching the edge zone and md send a aftertouch comand to suprior drummer that i stop the cymbal.

the problem in this is, if i hit the edge there is an other velocity than on the bow. dont want the edge as a tigger zone for my hits, simply want the zone to generate a note by touching it.

is it possible?

with the trigger io it was so: first zone was triggered by hitting it, secont zone was triggered by touching it.
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby dmitri » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:14 pm

talrusher wrote:is there a way to generate a chocke note to chocke the cymbals?

for example:
now my cymbals are set to dualzone. on the second zone i have maped the same note as on the first zone. i can stop the cymbal by touching the edge zone and md send a aftertouch comand to suprior drummer that i stop the cymbal.

the problem in this is, if i hit the edge there is an other velocity than on the bow. dont want the edge as a tigger zone for my hits, simply want the zone to generate a note by touching it.

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand the problem. You can disable the edge zone by setting its Note to zero. Aftertouch choke should still work.
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby talrusher » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:31 pm

thats exactly my problem, by disabling the note for the second zone, the choke dont work anymore.
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby dmitri » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:16 pm

Can you assign a note to the edge zone which doesn't trigger any sound in Superior Drummer?
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby talrusher » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:38 pm

yes, of course, but then i have the problem, that if i hit this nothing happens... it would be nice, if you change this in the next firmware update.
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby dmitri » Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:38 pm

talrusher wrote:yes, of course, but then i have the problem, that if i hit this nothing happens...

I don't understand you. You said before:

dont want the edge as a tigger zone for my hits

Which contradicts what you say now. So what exactly do you want to achieve?
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby talrusher » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:51 pm

want the second zone only for stoping the crash sound from the first zone.
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby dmitri » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:06 pm

You want to 'choke' the bow sound with a hit on the edge zone?
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby talrusher » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:08 am

lol... ,)

...no, want to "choke" with touch on the edge.

the bow with a crash sound by hitting it and the edge with choke by touching it.
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Re: Choke without aftertouch

Postby Sylv1co » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:02 am

What you want to achieve don't need any firmware update, just assign the bow note to crash sound in S2, the edge note to the same crash sound in S2, and set the aftertouch that will be sent when you'll press the edge switch to choke the sound in S2.
Another way is to set the bow note and the edge note to the same note. Don't try to use the NoteOn midi message to choke the sound, it's useless since you have the aftertouch message available.
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