Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

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Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby drumkandy » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:36 pm

I am using 14" aluminum snare with a Pearl Mesh head. The trigger is a Roland rim mounted RT10 T. I followed the initial steps of post- http://www.megadrum.info/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20543#p20543 But I am still getting 1-4 hits per strike of the drum. To reduce reverberation, I removed the bottom head. Here are screenshots of the signal running straight through my audio interfaces instrument port. I have a 100k pot turned all the way down for this hit. These are the same hit.
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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby dmitri » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:55 pm

1. Do you connect the trigger to MegaDrum via a voltage divider/tripot/resistor?
2. Post a screenshot of your settings.
3. Post a screenshot of MIDI Log / Visual MIDI showing double triggering with these settings.
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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby dmitri » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:57 pm

Also look at http://powerhell.wordpress.com/about/zo ... d-library/ kindly provided by angr77
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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby angr77 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:19 pm

I have been using the RT-10s with the MD...IT is a bit too hot so using a 10-15k ohms resistor in serial is useful to make it perfect.

I don't recall that I even got some double triggering even without a resistor...check my settings for RT-10S. (I was using bottom heads on my drums)

First, Do tighten the mesh head quite hard.

Don't press the RT-10 sensor to hard (mechanically ) against the mesh head. You have a screw to adjust this on the RT-10s.

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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby drumkandy » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:21 pm

I have a pot wired internally. Wire from mainboard > pot > head terminal of 1/4" input in MD. It seems to do its job, but let me know if that is wrong.
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It wasn't doing this with the 0's before. It crashed and when I tried it again, I got this. It's a single zone trigger.
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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby drumkandy » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:24 pm

angr77 wrote: I don't recall that I even got some double triggering even without a resistor...check my settings for RT-10S. (I was using bottom heads on my drums)

Hmm that's why i'm wondering if these pearl heads are bad for triggering, that is what I read on the web. Thanks for the advice angr, I will trying tightening the head even further.
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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby dmitri » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:39 pm

1. With HighLevel Auto enabled and HighLevel set to 64, hit the pad a few dozen times with hardest hits. Pull settings from MegaDrum to MDM. What HighLevel do you get? If it is above ~900 then it is too hot.
2. Once you adjusted HighLevel for the trigger, you must deactivate HighLevel Auto.

drumkandy wrote:It wasn't doing this with the 0's before. It crashed and when I tried it again, I got this. It's a single zone trigger.

What did exactly crash? Inputs with Note set 0 (disabled) should not trigger. If it triggers then it is a bug in firmware. Can you re-produce it?
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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby drumkandy » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:56 pm

My High level was mid 500, but I never knew you had to turn off Auto after. I will.

The "crash" was in MDM. It just froze when I made in adjustment.
dmitri wrote: Can you re-produce it?
That is part of the reason I can not understand this software, I seemingly have a different problem everytime I turn it on. That zero issue happens occasionally (as far as I can tell at random). But now I cannot reproduce. Now, every time I strike the pad, the correct signal meter on the MD lights up like it should, but so does the one directly below. So 2 signal meters light up at once. This happens on most of the inputs. A few of them have the bottom signal meter lighting up constantly with out me touching it. I'm getting worried here.
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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby dmitri » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:41 pm

drumkandy wrote: Now, every time I strike the pad, the correct signal meter on the MD lights up like it should, but so does the one directly below. So 2 signal meters light up at once.

What is connected to these inputs? What are the settings on these inputs? Do you use stereo cables? Do you have pads/triggers connected to both channels of the stereo cable or you leave one unconnected?
This happens on most of the inputs. A few of them have the bottom signal meter lighting up constantly with out me touching it. I'm getting worried here.

What are the settings on the input which constantly triggers without hitting it? What is connected to it? Do you have a cable plugged into these input? What are you worrying about?
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Re: Configuring 14" Snare with Mesh head

Postby drumkandy » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:31 pm

I was worrying that it was "buggy" like you said, but know I can see I just don't understand a single thing about the manager itself, and I'm sorry about that. Is there a basic guide to USING the manager? Not the definitions of each setting, I've read that one. Something that explains simple things like: When I change the "input" setting, is that simply changing the name, or changing the 1/4" input it is drawing from? How do I disable all of the inputs I am not using to help me understand this better? Really I am just looking for a distinction between "Input", "Note", and "Name". It's all overwhelming because every time I restart the MDM things seem to be different.
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