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Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:02 am
by tobykea
Hi there, I'm noticing that when trying to play soft Bow Hits on the Hi-Hat directly after a chick, the first note is missed or perhaps suppressed by Megadrum's own "trigger suppression of the same zone functionality"?

The nuances of great playing often dictate that a soft hihat bow hit will come after a chick. An example of this would be the groove to "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" by Paul Simon with Gadd on drums. The groove comprises of playing alternate chick and hihat bow hits.

The only way it works for me without having that first bow hit missed is if I really hit the bow hard after the chick at which point all the feel and groove of this particular groove is lost.

The topic viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2886 and Dimitri's comments alluded to the fact that Megadrum will try and suppress hits of similar or lower velocity coming from the same pad/edge/bow etc.

Is there anyway to change this so that lighter bow strikes on the Hihat very quickly after a chick will not be supressed?

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:16 am
by dmitri
I will look into that.

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:50 am
by tobykea
Great, thanks Dmitri.

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 2:23 pm
by dmitri
Can you please test this firmware version?
megadrum_20160529.zip

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 4:38 pm
by Kabonfaiba
Can we use this firmware too Dmitri?

What needs testing?

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 4:39 pm
by dmitri
Yes, you can test it. I only tied to reduce HiHat triggering suppression right after a chick.

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 2:10 pm
by ignotus
Just tested it. With fast foot chicks while hitting the bow I also noticed lots of missed hits - this firmware seems to have sorted out the problem; works great.

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 6:02 pm
by dmitri
In this case I will make this version official.

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:19 am
by tobykea
Logged in for the first time in a while and saw this. Great work Dmitri. I'll give it whirl this week and see how things go.
Many thanks for looking into this.

Cheers,
Toby

Re: Missed Hihat Bow Hit when played quickly after a Chick

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:01 pm
by tobykea
Works a treat Dmitri. Nice work mate and thanks a heap for sorting this.

Cheers,
Toby