Howto set levels on hihat?

[stefan1982]

I am trying to set the levels on my hihat cymbal.

I did the following:
- I open MDM;
- "Live updates" are on;
- Set HighLevel to "64";
- Tick the "HighLevel Auto";
- Smashed the cymbal 5-10 times;
- Untick the "HighLevel Auto";

And nothing happens.... Just nothing, even when I do a "Get All", or when "Live Updates" are off..

Am I doing something wrong here and missing something simple?

[airflamesred]

Am I doing something wrong here and missing something simple?

I don't think so, What the midi log showing?

[stefan1982]

It shows that the hit took place, with several false hits. But the latter is expectable, because the cymbal is not setup properly yet.
The HighLevel should be correctly set first...

[dmitri]

You show config for inputs 2 and 3 but the MIDI Log is showing hits for some other inputs with Notes set 0.

[stefan1982]

Hmm, I've got lost of all the other inputs.
Only the top DIY hi-hat cymbal is plugged into the MD.

I can set the HighLevel now, which seems pretty low Imo (?), although still getting false triggering even with the recommended settings.
Isn't that strange?

(See the right screenshot underneath)

[stefan1982]

Sorry, wrong screenshot... this is the screenshots of MDm where I am getting the false triggers. (there is nothing plugged into the MD TMI, only the top HH cymbal which is a DIY cymbal)

[dmitri]

What happens if you set Retrigger to 2?

[stefan1982]

I did as you requested.. Currently I am at retrigger set to 85, and still getting false triggers (although a lot less):


While this is a diy cymbal, I wonder is there is something wrong with the construction. I did not have seen retrigger set to this high before.

Just to see how things would go, I taped a piezo underneath a Zildjian L80 14" hit cymbal. Perhaps it need some dampening on top, or some double-sided foam instead of tape to place the piezounderneath the cymbal. And this is the result.. Do you have some advise, or is retriever set to a blue this high more common than I thought? Perhaps with other A=>E cymbals?

[stefan1982]

I did as you requested.. Currently I am at retrigger set to 85, and still getting false triggers (although a lot less):


While this is a diy cymbal, I wonder is there is something wrong with the construction. I did not have seen retrigger set to this high before.

Just to see how things would go, I taped a piezo underneath a Zildjian L80 14" hit cymbal. Perhaps it need some dampening on top, or some double-sided foam instead of tape to place the piezounderneath the cymbal. And this is the result.. Do you have some advise, or is retriever set to a blue this high more common than I thought? Perhaps with other A=>E cymbals?

Well... Just to tame my own curiosity, I stripped down the piezo, putt some 0.5mm double-sided foam underneath (instead of the double sided tape) and placed it inside the bell.
Seems to be much better. High level is a bit lower, but the retrigger is set around 2-3 now without any top covering (yet)..
To be continued...

[dmitri]

I guess you already know what is wrong - your DIY cymbal has too much "after hit" vibration.