roland pd8 best settings, configuration problem

[lasot]

Hi guys. I've still been working on configure my rolnd pd8 pads.
All I did correct is I have separated rim and head BUT when I play on rim really light, then instead of rim the head is beeing heard.
How to fix it? anynody has an experiance with these pads? Or maybe is an nature pf MDM? When i plug pd8 through my octapad and connect to computer, then it works perfect. HOW TO DO THIS ON MDM TO WORK THE SAME. I need two separate sounds- head and rim- including all dynamics level for each.
any help, any screen shots? ideas? In my opinion it should work similar for all pd8 pads. I have 10 of them and they works the same.
thanks for ANY help. and if it's a nature of MDM , tell me and I will stop wasting a time looking for the perfect setup.
thanks a lot
michal

[dmitri]

Post a screenshot of your settings on the pad.

[lasot]

thanks Dimitri for your reply

Number 1 is the setup I had beed using up to one week ago. All hits are the rim but when i hit rim lighter, then mdm recive it as a head.
number 2 I found on the forum but it still doesn't work correct. And the same here. Green is a strong rim hit. The blue is the rim too but hit lighter.

[lasot]

is it all right? can you download the images? I wasn't able to put them direct on forum.

[dmitri]

Taking the second screenshot as a starting point.

1. You'd better insert images directly in the forum - the forum allows you to do this.
2. Don't disable 3rd Zone. Set Notes in 3rd zone equal to Notes on the Edge/Rim.
3. Threshold on the 3rd zone must be set lower then Threshold on the Edge/Rim. Set it to 0.
4. Set Curve on the Edge/Rim to Exp2Custom7.

Repeat testing. After that post a screenshot of settings again and describe a problem again if it is still there.

[lasot]

ok. that is how it looks.
all hits are really strong rim hits. it's hard to achieve high volume. when I hit lighter it is still a lottery - sometimes hear a rim-green, sometimes hear a head-blue.

[dmitri]

On the Edge/Rim set Gain to 7. Adjust Threshold (set it higher). What is the minimum possible Threshold on the Rim when you still get Aftertouch messages when you press/release the rim switch? What is the maximum possible Threshold on the Rim when you still get Aftertouch messages when you press/release the rim switch?

[lasot]

ok. i did 7 of gain on rim.
If you mean aftertouch as a grey stripes appearing itselfs, so max threshold to not see them is 36-37 but then I still get a head stripes hitting a rim on pad sometimes. (photo nr 1)
there is no minimum threshold in my case. I mean, even I put '0' threshold I don't have aftertouch message (grey stripes). but first level the green rim stripe appears (when I hit a rim on a pad) is 15 but on this level sometimes appears and sometimes not. Mostly when I hit the rim on this level (15) the blue stripe appears so it is definitely too low. (photo nr 2)

[dmitri]

ok. i did 7 of gain on rim.
If you mean aftertouch as a grey stripes appearing itselfs, so max threshold to not see them is 36-37 but then I still get a head stripes hitting a rim on pad sometimes. (photo nr 1)
there is no minimum threshold in my case. I mean, even I put '0' threshold I don't have aftertouch message (grey stripes). but first level the green rim stripe appears (when I hit a rim on a pad) is 15 but on this level sometimes appears and sometimes not. Mostly when I hit the rim on this level (15) the blue stripe appears so it is definitely too low. (photo nr 2)

36-37 is the minimal Threshold in this case. There will be a maximum Threshold after which you'll stop getting Aftertouch messages when you press the switch. What is this level?

[lasot]

it never stops aftertouch message above 37 threshold up to 127.
from 39 threshold I have actually only green rim stripes even I hit a head.