Nope, It was a problem, but not the only one. I had the programming cable connections on the ICSP cable mirrored. I fixed that and now Winpic is saying it's OK, but when it tries to load the FW it goes through the process and then quits and gives me the FAILED error. Would having the 33K resistor to ground, on the PIC that doesn't need it cause a problem?
Will the LCD come on if the PIC is not programmed?