VH12 configuration

[ibanman555]

Hi!

The 20121210 seems to work fine. My VH-11 hihat gives a raw level between 32 and 482. I am using a 15K resistor(TIP/RING) which makes it a bit more smooth and a little wider spread between the pedals high and low level.

I have made a small movie clip from Addictive Drums when I am using the VH-11 and the firmware.

http://youtu.be/4pWQey6Otxk

The midi log works fine in MDM.

(I also saw that the new firmware also included files for the new ARM based MegaDRUM module!! - Very nice Dmitri)

Your hihat response is much better than mine using the VH-12. I am still getting broken sounds in the middle, but I am getting closer with some adjustments within SD2. I will continue with testing with a 20k resistor, as I am using a 10k now. Also, how are you getting bell sounds with a 2 zone drum Anders?

[angr77]

Is it so? I am not 100% satisfied yet with the VH-11 either. But it works. I made some dial-ins for Roland FD-7/CY-5 and that became extremely good. See my library. The Bell note....I am using the aftertouch/choke switch for that... Easy!!

Best Regards

ANGR77

[ibanman555]

Ok, so I'm gonna go ahead and test with AD, is there a specific version you are using that might help me with my troubleshooting? I hope to get the same results that you have using a VH-12, using Addictive Drums. If I can get similar results to your video, then I can narrow out there being a problem with the triggers and MD themselves.

I'm hoping I don't have an issue within SD2, as I have pretty much tried everything I know about that program.

[ibanman555]

The Bell note....I am using the aftertouch/choke switch for that... Easy!!

Could you describe in more detail? Is this in MegaDrum or AD? Thanks!

[ibanman555]

Update: Alright, So with experiments using Addictive Drums I must say I got much better results. AD made it apparent that I needed to tighten up my Lo & Hi Level adjustments in Megadrum, so a few hours into reprogramming, I got the best I'm going to get with the current firmware. I have an extremely short throw with my "raw level" settings, but it's the best I can do with what I have. I like how you can really adjust the hi hat settings in AD, and I got it to sound real good and behave as it should.

But alas... I won't be using AD, so on to Superior Drummer. I found I really needed to tweek the settings in MD to get the hi hat working anywhere near as well as AD did. But I am fairly happy with the result, I can play and the hi hat is 80% realistic. I will post my (Superior Drummer 2.0 + MegaDrum) settings soon.

[angr77]

Exciting ibanman555!

Yes, the AD hihat stuff is very good! Have you seen the small button right to the pedal level mapping...? It is handling when to open the hi hat...level 32 or 90 etc. I get the best results when selecting 90 or reset. (this button sets the whole pedal level mapping)

I will try to post my bell thing today.

I have actually never tried the SD2(!).(Toontrack is a swedish company - just as XLN and I am a swedish guy...) but i am feeling tempted to try...

We will see in the near future!!

Best Regards

Angr77

[ibanman555]

*sigh* I really hate to have to bump this topic again, but there are some things I would like to sort out. I have been trying to work with SD2 and the Roland VH-12 to the best of my ability, but this kit is only as strong as it's weakest link. Right now, that is the Hi Hat. We have accomplished a great deal of progress over the last few months with this specific trigger, but I feel that there is a possibility that we can further fine tune.

I am able to use the Roland VH-12 with MegaDrum with fairly good results considering the state it was in 3 months ago. I have done some research to try and understand why users of a VH-11 have much better results in comparison. Anger77, contributing to our last drive to configure firmware for the VH-12, said that his Hi Hat functionality was superior to what it had been. Our 'raw' readings for the Hi Hat vary significantly, where he apparently had hundreds of levels in difference (i.e. 32-482 with the VH-11) and I have nothing near that (i.e. 525-557 with the VH-12). I am succumbing to the reality of this, and having unstable sounds because of a bouncing 'hi hat meter' in MDM and MD. I am going to experiment with a Yamaha DTX Hi Hat pedal in the next day or two to see MD response to it, and further, possibly purchase a Roland interface to compare and test against MD...

I'm even so inclined so send IT and the VH-12 to Dmitri for testing (if interested). I hope it doesn't have to come to that, but I am in 100% solution mode now, and for as long as I can be. If you have a VH-12 and MD, feel free to join in, we need your help. Thanks everyone!

[dmitri]

Our 'raw' readings for the Hi Hat vary significantly, where he apparently had hundreds of levels in difference (i.e. 32-482 with the VH-11) and I have nothing near that (i.e. 525-557 with the VH-12)

IS it with or without an extra resistor?

[ibanman555]

Our 'raw' readings for the Hi Hat vary significantly, where he apparently had hundreds of levels in difference (i.e. 32-482 with the VH-11) and I have nothing near that (i.e. 525-557 with the VH-12)

IS it with or without an extra resistor?

Currently with a 10k resistor.

[ibanman555]

:(

*sigh* I really hate to have to bump this topic again, but there are some things I would like to sort out. I have been trying to work with SD2 and the Roland VH-12 to the best of my ability, but this kit is only as strong as it's weakest link. Right now, that is the Hi Hat. We have accomplished a great deal of progress over the last few months with this specific trigger, but I feel that there is a possibility that we can further fine tune.

I am able to use the Roland VH-12 with MegaDrum with fairly good results considering the state it was in 3 months ago. I have done some research to try and understand why users of a VH-11 have much better results in comparison. Anger77, contributing to our last drive to configure firmware for the VH-12, said that his Hi Hat functionality was superior to what it had been. Our 'raw' readings for the Hi Hat vary significantly, where he apparently had hundreds of levels in difference (i.e. 32-482 with the VH-11) and I have nothing near that (i.e. 525-557 with the VH-12). I am succumbing to the reality of this, and having unstable sounds because of a bouncing 'hi hat meter' in MDM and MD. I am going to experiment with a Yamaha DTX Hi Hat pedal in the next day or two to see MD response to it, and further, possibly purchase a Roland interface to compare and test against MD...

I'm even so inclined so send IT and the VH-12 to Dmitri for testing (if interested). I hope it doesn't have to come to that, but I am in 100% solution mode now, and for as long as I can be. If you have a VH-12 and MD, feel free to join in, we need your help. Thanks everyone!

Hey Everyone,

I want to disregard the above post, and I apologize for stirring the pot yet again. In my free-floating mind lately, I didn't give myself enough 'troubleshoot' time to try and figure out what's really going on. I was set up with 'low impedance' from forever ago, and just happened to switch back to 'hi imp' just to see what happened.... Well, everything is fine. I over reacted. Everything is working perfectly with the VH-12. I will post my new settings soon. Thanks!

p.s. - now i'll enjoy slowly watching this post fall to the bottom of the barrel...