Howto set levels on hihat?

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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby stefan1982 » Mon May 01, 2017 9:54 pm

My HighLevel is now around 550, isn't that a bit low? How could I raise that?
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby dmitri » Mon May 01, 2017 10:58 pm

Why do you think HighLevel 550 is too low?
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby stefan1982 » Tue May 02, 2017 6:32 am

Well, I've read in the forums here (somewhere) that optimal hardware would give HighLevel between 900-1000.
So HighLevel of around 550, is 55% of the optimal. Which isn't that high Imo. Am I misinterpreting things?

While I'm still in the process of constructioning my cymbal this would be the ideal time of making hardware modifications. Better now, than when the cymbal is finished. Right? That''s the reason I ask..

And for now, I do not have any covering on top of the cymbal. Having 1-2 layers to dampen (stick)sound and vibrations, will even lower my HighLevel a bit more imo.

At least thank you for your very appreciated help so far!
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby dmitri » Tue May 02, 2017 9:17 am

stefan1982 wrote:Well, I've read in the forums here (somewhere) that optimal hardware would give HighLevel between 900-1000.
So HighLevel of around 550, is 55% of the optimal. Which isn't that high Imo. Am I misinterpreting things?

Where did you read this? MIDI has only 127 velocity levels. 550 is far more then that to cover the whole dynamic range.
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby stefan1982 » Tue May 02, 2017 9:38 am

I've read it on this forum, although it was not from your keyboard. I can't find it at the moment, but I am sure it is here (somewhere) between all the posts and information scattered around.
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby ignotus » Tue May 02, 2017 10:30 am

That figure has been thrown around, but in reality, "ideally" it should be somewhere in between 300 and 1000. There is no problem whatsoever provided the highlevel is above 200 - 300. If it's closer to 300 it means the pad is a bit cooler than if it's at 1000. I take 800 to be a good value because it means that the pad is sufficiently "hot" but not too hot that it maxes out - probably just a psychological preference and nothing more; but a high level of 400 will not necessarily perform any worse. I have some pads at around 350 and others at 900 and I can't really tell the difference.

If I'm not mistaken, the way it works is this: the high level value is determined by the peak voltage produced by the piezo and then this value is divided by 127. As long as the high level is higher than 127, it can be divided into 127 discrete levels and thus produce the entire dynamic range, so -in theory- even a high level of 127 would be enough, though I suppose a higher value gives it a bit more of a margin.
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby dmitri » Tue May 02, 2017 1:08 pm

ignotus wrote:If I'm not mistaken, the way it works is this: the high level value is determined by the peak voltage produced by the piezo and then this value is divided by 127. As long as the high level is higher than 127, it can be divided into 127 discrete levels and thus produce the entire dynamic range, so -in theory- even a high level of 127 would be enough, though I suppose a higher value gives it a bit more of a margin.

Small correction: (HighLevel - Threshold) must be at least 127 for a full dynamic range.
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby ignotus » Tue May 02, 2017 1:28 pm

dmitri wrote:Small correction: (HighLevel - Threshold) must be at least 127 for a full dynamic range.
Cheers Dmitri; yes, I overlooked that!
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby stefan1982 » Tue May 02, 2017 1:51 pm

Dmitri, Ignotus: thank you for your help and advise. I must have misinterpreted the post where I had read this within the forum.

Thank you both for your time and interest.

PS: Ignotus: You make some really cool DIY drumstuff..
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Re: Howto set levels on hihat?

Postby ignotus » Tue May 02, 2017 2:52 pm

No prob. Glad you like my stuff.
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