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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby dmitri » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:52 pm

gastric wrote:There, that wasn't so hard. :) haha

And don't forget this:
dmitri wrote:megadrum32_16_32_20081020 if it is not overclocked (i.e. you are using 16MHz crystal with Atmega). If it is overclocked, i.e. you are using 20MHz crystal with Atmega, I wash my hands of any issues you may encounter.
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby gastric » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:19 pm

Thank you. I will simply use megadrum32_20_32_20081020 for my ATmega32 16PU with 20Mhz crystal.
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby gastric » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:51 pm

OK, I just re-read all of the recent comments to make sure I'm understanding everything correctly. As apparently I wasn't before.

* Firmware clock has to match the crystal clock.
* The ATmega32 16-PU is rated by the manufacturer for a clock for 16Mhz.
* Ideally, this would use a 16Mhz crystal to ensure a proper clock match. Use megadrum32_16_20081020 for firmware.
* However, you can PROBABLYuse a 20Mhz crystal which overclocks the 16Mhz ATmega to 20Mhz. Use megadrum32_20_20081020 for firmware.
* The ATmega644 20-PU is rated by the manufacturer for a clock of 20Mhz.
* Ideally this would use a 20Mhz crystal. Use megadrum32_20_20081020 for firmware.
* Assuming the above is true I'm assuming you could use a 16Mhz crystal and underclock the ATmega644 20-PU. Use megadrum32_16_20081020 for firmware.

Synthex, I'm not criticizing I'm just asking for my own education. Why not just specify for your users to use a 16Mhz crystal with the ATmega32 16-PU? It would seem to eliminates one potential problem with the build. Or if underclocking isn't an issue why not specify the 16Mhz crystal and be on the safe side for all builds?
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby Synthex » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:38 pm

gastric wrote:* Firmware clock has to match the crystal clock.
* The ATmega32 16-PU is rated by the manufacturer for a clock for 16Mhz.
* Ideally, this would use a 16Mhz crystal to ensure a proper clock match. Use megadrum32_16_20081020 for firmware.
* However, you can PROBABLYuse a 20Mhz crystal which overclocks the 16Mhz ATmega to 20Mhz. Use megadrum32_20_20081020 for firmware.
* The ATmega644 20-PU is rated by the manufacturer for a clock of 20Mhz.
* Ideally this would use a 20Mhz crystal. Use megadrum32_20_20081020 for firmware.
* Assuming the above is true I'm assuming you could use a 16Mhz crystal and underclock the ATmega644 20-PU. Use megadrum32_16_20081020 for firmware.

All is right.

gastric wrote:Synthex, I'm not criticizing I'm just asking for my own education. Why not just specify for your users to use a 16Mhz crystal with the ATmega32 16-PU? It would seem to eliminates one potential problem with the build. Or if underclocking isn't an issue why not specify the 16Mhz crystal and be on the safe side for all builds?

Because the 20MHz version is more reactive.
And I've never had problem with overclocked Atmega.
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby dmitri » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:16 pm

Synthex wrote:
gastric wrote:Synthex, I'm not criticizing I'm just asking for my own education. Why not just specify for your users to use a 16Mhz crystal with the ATmega32 16-PU? It would seem to eliminates one potential problem with the build. Or if underclocking isn't an issue why not specify the 16Mhz crystal and be on the safe side for all builds?

Because the 20MHz version is more reactive.
And I've never had problem with overclocked Atmega.

I've had problems with overclocked Atmega. Also see:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=373
viewtopic.php?p=4043#p4043
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby Synthex » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:55 am

Are there people in this case ?
Are there people who do not have problem ?
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby kimouette » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:12 am

Crystals are so inexpensive I'll just buy a new one

Syntex or Dmitri, could you confirm that the following crystal will work with my Atmega-16pu

http://fr.farnell.com/vishay-dale/xt49s ... dp/1469640
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby Synthex » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:42 am

kimouette wrote:Synthex or Dmitri, could you confirm that the following crystal will work with my Atmega-16pu
http://fr.farnell.com/vishay-dale/xt49s ... dp/1469640

Yes, it works.
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby efbe » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:32 am

Synthex wrote:Are there people in this case ?
Are there people who do not have problem ?


Atmega 32 16 PU works now with 20MHz cristal.

EFBE
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Re: KIT AVAILABLE !!! All In One v2.7 PCB Kit to sell !!!

Postby Synthex » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:13 pm

Good !! :)
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