3 zone cymbal support, Yamaha style. How many of you need it

[dmitri]

You must remember that I do 3-zone testing on a mock device shown in http://www.megadrum.info/forums/viewtop ... 6726#p6726

With this mock device I get reliable edge/bell sounds when I set Threshold to 35-40 on the Edge and BThreshold to 15-25. This is with the default Gain 4 on the Edge.
If I set Gain to 8 on the Edge I get reliable edge/bell sounds when I set Threshold to 60-70 on the Edge and BThreshold to 25-50.

[macca2004]

Yamaha uses a 10k resistor on one of the switches...does megadrum also read the resistance difference between each switch?

[dmitri]

Yamaha uses a 10k resistor on one of the switches...does megadrum also read the resistance difference between each switch?

This is how I made this mock device, with a 10k resistor.

[macca2004]

Yamaha uses a 10k resistor on one of the switches...does megadrum also read the resistance difference between each switch?

This is how I made this mock device, with a 10k resistor.

Sorry I didn't see it on your photos..

Considering how many people have viewed this thread, you would think one or two would have perfect settings they would want to share

[r0bbie]

Dmitri,

Would some scope readings from the piezo and switches help you to analyze this problem?

42 pro votes and no positive respons with good settings is a bit strange?

[dmitri]

Dmitri,

Would some scope readings from the piezo and switches help you to analyze this problem?

No, it won't. As I said it works reliably with the mock device but it took many trials to achieve this and a scope readings wouldn't have helped with trials.

[elrules]

42 pro votes and no positive respons with good settings is a bit strange?

Take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZDn4CMxPw0

I successfully configured my pcy150s. It didn't take much time. I used settings similar to what dmitri recommends.

By the way, the cymbal has a variable resistor that can be tweaked without opening it. I turned it to maximum (or minimum, I don't really know )

[macca2004]

I'm not sure if it's the youtube video, but the bow doesnt seem very sensitive...Whats your threshold level on the bow.maybe mine is too low.

[elrules]

I'm not sure if it's the youtube video, but the bow doesnt seem very sensitive...Whats your threshold level on the bow.maybe mine is too low.

It is due to a combination of crappy youtube video conversion, crappy digital camera microphone, and that I didn't do many soft hits. All of them were medium to high strength. If you see, at the beginning of the video, I play from low to high. It may also be due to Superior Drummer, but I remember to had good sensitivity range. My threshold, if I remember well, was 40 or something like that, almost the default value.

EDIT: I remember now, to have discussed this problem with dmitri before. I think triggering got better when I turned the pot of the cymbal to have the lowest possible sensitivity out of the cymbal, and I used a Gain of 4 or more. That was the trick. With a Gain of 0 (which I needed for almost all my pads as they are a bit hot), the zone separation was inconsistent. But thanks to the built-in variable resistor in the cymbal, I was able to up the Gain value.

[macca2004]

so what was your final highlevel setting when your gain was 4? Mines around 500 at gain 3...none of my yammie pads seem hot.